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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 12:22:00 -
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Yup, CFC are poor, that's the one.
By the way Sol, how do you feel knowing that your new leader, Gevlon Goblin has announced officially that you are too poor to afford your wardecs, which is why he is paying for them?Gevlon Goblin wrote:By paying the wardec and management costs of a new alliance Darwins Lemmings and the wardec costs of the highsec PvP alliance Marmite Collective. These people want to PvP, they want to hit Goons and pets (as they are numerous and dumb), but they can't afford the costs, at least not constantly. You'll have to speak up when you respond. Even though we're all super poor and that, I often have trouble hearing people through the walls of isk around me. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 14:19:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:We all have an opinion and far be it for me to stop people being allowed to voice that opinion. But you really need to understand that the Tooth Fairy isn't real or the untouchable cannot be touched as you null pubbies believe yourself to be. Good thing we've never claimed to be untouchable then. That's another false accusation from your new leader. We claim to not be able to be defeated by high sec losses, which will remain the case. We don't live there, so claiming it makes any difference really is wishful thinking at best. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 16:34:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:I watched Goons fall apart the last time and the writing was on the wall then with the same rhetoric being spouted. Observing what is happening now seems to be the same path of old. But that's just my opinion of course And you indeed are entitled to your opinion. But hatred of goons aside, do you actually believe that kill stats in high sec will cause a null group to collapse? All null groups know to use NPC alts for highsec logistics. A bunch of randoms getting killed because they choose to fly a blinged out battleship out of Jita and hope for the best isn't going to do anything.
What you guys are doing is not new, and you should know that, since you are one of the groups that have wardecced goons for a long time. So if it could cause a null group to collapse, it would have already happened. Your old leaders knew though that the goal was a buffed KB, not the destruction of the target group, as that would be an unrealistic goal. Now under Gevlon, with his irrational hatred clouding his judgement, you suddenly think you are having some profound impact?
One day when you guys want to stop chestbeating and put forward a realistic war plan, maybe you'll get taken seriously. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:30:00 -
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Sol epoch wrote:All I have to say further is that everything starts small and one day who knows, but it has got your guys attention. Oh! and by the way I have no hate for Goons or any other entity for that matter. It's all a game don't you know. I kinda wish you really could have an impact, it would be fun. Seems it's pretty much a moot point now though, since BNI have stepped up to the plate and are building a coalition.
A game indeed. You might want to tell that to your leader. Apparently "fun" is not a valid motivator don't you know? :p The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 19:17:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:Newflash : Goons use it as an insult. Do they? As in always? Or do they sometimes do that? It's a very important decision. I use a whole array of words in both friendly and unfriendly manners. I'll quite often call my friends things where context and tone are the only things that convey the friendlier meaning. In the same way, I, to the goons, am a pubbie, and yet that's not cast upon me as an insult and I don;t get shunned every time I'm in fleet.
That said, considering the context of Sol's use, the target of the word and his surrounding statements it's not an enormous leap to conclude he was using it as an insult, though I'm sure he'll go to great lengths to deny that. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:03:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Wait, why is he crying? Don't mind Danalee. He is really bad at trolling, the example here being the old "call any response tears" thing. That's a Marmite go-to right now. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.06 10:25:00 -
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Louis Robichaud wrote:Erotica 1's prediction came true - sort of. Based on his last blog entry, people are apparently donating billions to him. There is even a list.
I'll remind our readers that putting bounties on RvB members is very effective. But no bounties on me! I want to stay bounty free forever!
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.06 10:32:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:Erotica 1's prediction came true - sort of. Based on his last blog entry, people are apparently donating billions to him. There is even a list.
I'll remind our readers that putting bounties on RvB members is very effective. Damn, why didn't I think of this? It's basically an ISK doubling scam. Give token amounts of ISK to a holding corp which "hurts" Goons. Display green killboard as proof of success. Collect donations for the cause greatly in excess of my own personal investments and never pay for another ship or PLEX out of my own pocket again. Why didn't I think of this sooner!? Don't forget to add: Insult the very group you swear to be protectng.
Gevlon claims to be doing this because high sec carebears he likes and how goons are all evil and stuff (and not because he applied for goons and god laughed at). But then when it's questioned why Marmite, the group he now leads, wardecs random high sec groups, and in fact does a LOT more damage to high sec carebears than goons ever will his response is:
Gevlon wrote:yes Marmite might wardec Joe Jim and Jack who mine in a corp and dream of one day affording an Orca. But they are unlikely be able to donate anyway. So if you can;t donate, then you are scum and his alliance will declare war on you because you don't matter.
By the way, does anyone know, when is Tora officially handing over the CEO position, or is Gevlon just staying in an NPC corp and leading from there? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.06 11:14:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:You know a lot of the 420 Lemmings just are in it for the fun of killing Goonies and Pets  . Good news, you will be seeing Lemmings in a system near you soon :). As we reached 400, its time for the next step. VFK, second on the right ? You're going to VFK? I'll have to see it to believe it I'm afraid. If it does happen that will constitute an actual attack in relevant space, so best of luck to you, and I mean that sincerely. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 11:59:00 -
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Professor Clio wrote:Joseph Soprano wrote:Professor Clio wrote:According to his blog, gevlon is spending 40 B a month on his grrr goon project. Its been going on for what? Two months now? And hes taken 2 pocos... That if I had to guess the goons will have taken back pretty soon.
I don't know if I should be amused or be sad for him. Thats a spectacular poor return on that much isk. When the goons bought RvB for zero isk now that was a bargain (so long as they don't sing)! Why is it so hard for people to understand that we freely entered into a mutually beneficial agreement with goons? I mean sure we didn't foresee that an irrational being would spend 40 billion a month trying and failing to take those POCOs and under normal circumstances we'd have gotten bored of this conflict a while ago, but since Gevlon lacks any hint of knowledge about how to interact socially with others and has been insulting RvB in every other blog post, he's managed to make sure that we stayed in. Because it's obviously all lies! I mean come on, which is more likely? A mutually beneficial agreement (laughable! Nobody has those!), or goons created your entire group years ago in anticipation of CCP one day releasing high sec assets which would require defending, then rather than creating them all under the alt alliance, created a handful under the goons banner, guaranteeing they would be attacked requiring the veil to be dropped from their alt alliance. Common sense surely states that it must be the latter.
Normally I'd just leave this as is, but since there's some pretty special people in Lemmings that probably won't get it, the above was sarcasm. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 14:11:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:@Professor Clio 'Why is it so hard for people to understand that we freely entered into a mutually beneficial agreement with goons?' Since you are goon pets it does does surprise anyone in the least that you have 'entered' into this agreement. I would have been surprised if you hadn't as that would have put you in direct conflict with your masters wouldn't it? Yeah I'm with Professor Clio with the confusion on this one. this kinda seems like the good old effect preceding cause thing, where they are goons pets because they entered into the agreement, and they entered into the agreement only because they are goon pets. Overall its just badly played propaganda.
Joseph Soprano wrote:As for having to spend 40bn to try and take some pocos in highsec i would say that the mechanic for the pocos in highsec is pretty much broken. So good going Mr Goblin for empowering highsec to fight back against the goons dispite this poorly thought out mechanic and shame on you RvB members for being used so. In what way would you say it is broken? Competent players can take POCOs with relative ease. When you pay a group who has trouble moving away from a gate or an undock though, and you set a recruitment bar of "anyone", then you aren't exactly going to get the most bang for your buck.
As for "fighting back", fighting back against what? Goons had the lowest taxed POCOs, while the Marmite ones have 100% tax. Goons may do the occasional heavily announced interdiction or burn Jita, but Gevlon, the new marmite leader went out of his way to gank people for months. Marmite themselves gank all the time, and wardec small and helpless corps to boost their killboard stats and harvest high sec tears. What exactly did goons do to you to make you so butthurt that you want to side with some of the worst elemnts of high sec?
Joseph Soprano wrote:Paying out 40 billion is a bad business investment however standing against the goons is not just about the isk is it. I would have thought the joint RvB/goon wormhole expeditionary force would have know that. Yes, I'm sure its not about isk, it's about impact, which there has been none. I haven't seen anything in null (you know, where the CFC live) actually affected by what you guys are doing. That's because all you are doing is KB padding. By all means, carry on. Eventually when nothing changes you will get bored, but until then, throwing away isk keeps you from being able to do anything that does have an impact.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:44:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:while Goons are drunk So... Every day? :p The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.16 22:30:00 -
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Clio Fenatti wrote:anyone else here thinks Goblin might actually be a genius for possibly creating one of the biggest scams in EVE? Doubtful. I think he genuinely believe that the things he says are revolutionary and that goons will be detroyed by his terribad propaganda. It's what happens when you take someone that's not very bright but incredibly impressionable, have him gather some knowledge basic mechanics, expose him to some of the worst smacktalk in the game. He has a lot of rage, but no ability to actually formulate a reasonable strategy. Add onto that the impatience that leads him to believe that he can be winning on day 1, and the absolute refusal for him to believe anything he is saying or doing can be wrong, and you wind up with the result we see.
Tarojan wrote:Nope, unfortunately hes serious. He is however creating content and for that he should be applauded. Never a dull moment for his loyal blog followers! Oh and grats Lucas Kell. He unblocked you? *rushes out to get more popcorn* He didn't actually block me, he just moderates out half my comments, usually to try to push the chat into looking like he retorted and I left. Any time he hasn't got a way to say "oh no but *reams of unconnected facts and gibberish*" he moderates out the comments. So I just stopped posting. That's why I like these threads, since they allow people to have a back and forth with the flow only being controlled by a 3rd party.
I'll still post on his blog from time to time but there's no point arguing with people that stubborn. I'll just let him run with it until he burns out. In the meantime I'll continue to play the game as I always have and been seemingly unaffected while he announces how incredibly destroyed we all are. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:08:00 -
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Professor Clio wrote:I'll make a bold prediction, before the month is up Gevlon will stop funding marmite, cancel his noir contract but still claim victory. It begins. He's terminated his official tie to Lemmings now, and will pay the for tasks rather than funding them directly.. They are just Marmite's alt corp now. Since Marmite's claim to fame is being the most ridiculed of all the merc corps that amuses me somewhat.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:32:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:So, has anyone actually spoken with both Mittens and Gevlon at once in comms? I could totally see Gevlon as unique personality #3 for entertainment. Nobody makes this many mistakes in rapid succession. It feels scripted, though still enjoyable. nah, Gevlon the entity was known and public prior to even joining EVE. Ultimately he has a luxury few other people have (and one which is often not really afforded even to the Mittani), which is literally to try every possible strategy rather than showing any particular strategic selection process in avoiding sub optimal and very expensive strategies. (ie the most effective strategy is to reroute poco customers to pcoos that are unlikely to be taken by goons or rvb any time soon), but instead we see him simply choosing to rent another expensive gold plated hammer. I'm sure he is enjoying EVE far more, because being able to trade up large amounts of resources and then _use_ them for something is very different to most games especially WoW. The thing is, he wants to be known as someone who made a profound difference. He doesn't even seem to care what that difference is, he just wants to have done it and be respected by the community. But he has no idea how to actually work up a strategy so he continues to try out every dumb idea that pops into his head. And even if he stumbled on a working one, he wants instant results. He wants to put in nearly no effort and immediately see his name in lights. It's just not realistic. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:12:00 -
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Garven Dreis wrote:I heard a rumour that Gevlon Goblin got scammed out of an alliance, any truth to that? Now's it's a ~high sec~ mercenary alliance with an anti-goon bias. True story bro.
Apparently it isn't a "Marmite 2" alliance, even though it operates in exactly the same way no besides recruitment. Apparently if General Lemming wanted a 2nd Marmite corp, he would just merge everyone into Marmite, thou with how incredibly precious their efficiency is to them, I'd very much doubt that.
The long and short of it though is that Lemmings is now the Marmite noobie corp that allows lower efficiency. Once you show you can camp Jita and dock fast enough when in trouble you'll get moved to Marmite. Both corps will continue to be mercenaries to the same extent that Marmite currently does (so none, since nobody in their right mind considers Marmite's an actual merc corp), and they will both shoot goons (as they have done for years). Gevlon will be some, but less of their war bills (as reality and his weird method of working out his profit margins seem to be conflicting and the donations aren't pouring in like he expected). The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:20:00 -
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lol, weird. If you can't beat them, join them maybe? Or really bad spai! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:35:00 -
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Professor Clio wrote:All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)
gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value. Well with you being "obviously created by goons", that surely means the goons still own them right? Or could it possibly be that he was wrong? He wrote so... many... posts on it, so it must be true right? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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